Laetrile on Trial: The Legacy of Dr. Richardson and Natural Healing | Ep 42

Join host Sylvie Beljanski and John Richardson, Jr. as they explore the parallel persecution of two pioneering natural healing doctors. John's father, Dr. John Richardson, treated cancer patients with Laetrile (Vitamin B17) in the 1970s—earning him raids, arrests, and the loss of his medical license.

Yet his results spoke louder than the persecution: 62 documented cases of cancer remission. One remarkable patient—a young boy named Shane Horton given 45 days to live—is now a 60-year-old thriving crab fisherman.

In this conversation, John explains the science behind Vitamin B17, why it's been demonized despite being found in over 1,200 foods, and how his mission through Operation World Without Cancer aims to unite the natural healing community. A must-listen for anyone exploring integrative medicine, health freedom, and the power of community against medical suppression.

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Chapters

• 1:02 Introduction to Laetrile and B17
• 1:45 Guest Introduction and Shared Histories
• 3:04 Historical Background of Laetrile
• 5:24 Early Trials and Success Stories
• 11:16 Legal Battles and Persecution
• 15:52 Ad: Womabel®
• 16:43 Mechanism of Action Explained

Transcript

Introduction to Laetrile and B17

John Richardson, Jr.: I'm a proponent of a laetrile. I am a historian of laetrile and I try to talk about B17 because it has been so demonized. I wake up every morning with the mission of getting this word out there. It's harder to pick us off if we're not on an island by ourselves while we're out in the marketplace trying to change the world.

Guest Introduction and Personal Stories

Sylvie Beljanski: Hello, John, and thank you for joining me on The Beljanski Cancer Talk Show! I'm delighted having you. I mean, I think the audience knows really well now at this point about my stories, the story of my father, but having a fellow victim with also such a similar history with your father who also discovered something that was extremely effective, ready to fight cancer, and then having the government fighting this discovery and then having to go through, through exile and then proving on so many patients and then having books and then you as a second generation trying to carry on with this legacy. This is so similar to my story. I am delighted to have you and I think the audience is going to be thrilled with this event. So thank you. 

John Richardson, Jr.: My pleasure. Absolutely. And it really is funny as we were talking. And you've been working with Jan James on our team. She was saying “You and Sylvie are gonna just hit it off so much 'cause you have such a great history.” It's almost like you're my sister from France. A sister from, our fathers probably would've been buddies and I'm not even sure if they didn't know each other.

As of right now, it's just the stories were so similar.

Historical Background of Laetrile

Your father discovered the two natural substances that you still work with today. And my father didn't discover laetrile, he didn't discover B17. It was basically the Krebs, Dr. Ernst Krebs, Sr. that discovered it in the 1920s. He was an MD who used it to treat his patients.

But my dad was truly the first MD in the modern age that fought the system. He went to University of Rochester Medical School, top of his class. He was the president of the Honor Corps. He was just an honorable Christian man. And when he discovered that pharmaceutical drugs did not work as well as natural substances in the treatment and control of, we often say the big C or the C word, so we're not censored.

But I think on this platform, I can at least say that he was treating cancer in the early 1970s with using laetrile and metabolic therapy, a basic set of plans, less sugar. Back before, that was not really that popular. Lower animal proteins along with it eating vegetables al dente so that you're not overcooking them.

That all of the same things that your dad would've agreed with, and you agree with.

Sylvie Beljanski: Absolutely. And you agree with.

John Richardson, Jr.: But laetrile being the central focus, now I'm free to say that I am a proponent of laetrile. I am a historian of laetrile and I try to talk about B17 because it has so, been so demonized in the United States and all around the world because it was, it has been so effective.

You experienced a raid on your father's clinic and arrest and all that kinda stuff. We experienced that in our family in the 1970s and we knew so, 

Sylvie Beljanski: So, tell me exactly what happened to your dad. 

John Richardson, Jr.: Yeah. I'll start out by saying he, he was a nor, I call, I hate to use the word normal, but he was a standard medical doctor that, that learned all about drugss surgery, chemotherapy. That was the treatments of choice, the treatments, the treatment plan when my dad went to medical school, and that was pretty much all there was anything natural was just frowned upon. And so dad knew that when he first heard about laetrile, in the 1960s, that it was frowned upon, but he was very interested by it.

Dr. Krebs was in San Francisco, he was very close by. We were in the East Bay of the San Francisco Bay area.

Early Experiments and Success Stories

And so when our cat got cancer, our cat spooky got cancer, or it developed a tumor on its neck, dad took it. We took it to the veterinarian and they said it was gonna be $2,000 and 19, early $1971, which it was a whole lot of money back then. My dad's first life insurance policy he said was $10,000, and he thought that was all the money in the world. So, you can imagine what $2,000 was.

And the doctor of the prognosis for the veterinarian, he said that the cat would live another six months, maybe a year, but it would, the last year of its life would not be that great. So, dad thought what an opportunity to try this thing called laetrile or B17 out on the cat and see what happens. So, he went to San Francisco with my oldest brother. They picked up some laetrile or, and some apricot seeds, and they started feeding the cat.

Within 90 days, the cat responded tremendously. The tumor went away. The cat's coat was nicer. It had energy, and the cat lived another seven or eight years, even though it was old at the time that it developed the tumors, that the veterinarian had said the only way to resolve it was surgery, chemotherapy, radiation.

As fate would have it, at the same exact time, my dad's favorite nurse, Charlotte Anderson, had a sister Mildred who was diagnosed with stage four cancer. Mostly she had tumors throughout her arm, but it had spread to her spleen, her liver, her spine, and the doctors at Kaiser Hospital in the San Francisco Bay area.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Kaiser hospitals, but they wanted to remove her arm and they wanted to put her on, immediately start her on chemo and radiation. She agreed to the first course of chemo. She declined to get the surgery up front. But she tried the first course of chemo and just made her so sick.

She felt so sick she couldn't keep food down. She was just weak and just, it was miserable. And she thought, I felt better just being a cancer patient than I did being a chemo patient. So, she found out about what dad did with the cat and she begged my father to treat her with laetrile the same as he had done the cat.

Now, here's where dad had to pray and decide whether he wanted to go up against the medical establishment at that time who frowned upon natural treatments and treat this patient 'cause she was asking for it. They, he prayed about it. He thought I'm, I would be going against my Hippocratic oath if I didn't do what the patient wants. The patient really wants this.

So, he tried it on Mildred and she responded miraculously. Within 45 days, she was seeing a reduction of the tumor, she was feeling better. She was out of pain, knew relief. And then within, I believe, 90 days she went back to Kaiser, and they completely did a total search of all of her body, and doing all the scans and everything, and found that she was cancer free.

They especially noticed that all the tumor she had in her arm were all gone, and she was afraid to tell 'em because my father was so concerned. She was afraid to tell 'em what she had done. But they thought maybe it was that one chemotherapy course that we did, that you didn't wanna continue.

And she didn't, she didn't give in but they did say, we want, we'd still think we need to remove your arm. And she said, why would you need to if I was coming to you for the first time, would you feel like you need to remove my arm? They said, no, of course not, but we always see when we get rid of the cancer with surgery or radiation chemotherapy, it always comes back. So, we just feel it's a better prognosis if we remove your arm, then you don't have to, you'll be, you don't have to worry about cancer coming back. Mildred politely declined and she left Kaiser Hospital never to go back again, and she lives many more years after that.

And about six or seven years later, she ran into dad at a wedding, and she ran up to him with tears in her eyes and they grabbed each other's hands. And she realized that dad had changed her life. She still had her hands, and she was still alive. And dad realized that she had completely changed the course of his life because he went from a successful, orthodox medical doctor using chemo radiation to this naturopath.

It was world famous. He had written his book. It had just come out around the time that, that he bumped her at the wedding and it was all about all these patients he had been seeing in his practice that went to an oncologist, were told they had cancer, because if they didn't, they would always say, always just, it was just in their mind they didn't really have cancer.

Then they went through dad's entire metabolic therapy, including laetrile, and then they went back to the same hospital, and many of the times the same doctors, to get X-rayed and shown to be cancer free. One such case of a young man. His name was Shane Horton. He's shown here. His parents brought him to my father. He had full-blown cancer in his arm. It had spread to his liver, his spleen. He was six years old when he came to see my dad and told, his parents were told he has less than 45 days to live. Take him home and keep him happy and healthy and all that.

Shane was my age, so when he came to the clinic we befriended each other. He was there every day for 45 days. And Shane, we used to play on the back fence of my dad's practice. There's a bowling alley on the other side. Here he is three years later when he came back to get a checkup and to be part of the book, cancer free. And Shane is still alive today.

He's a 60-year-old Alaskan king crab fisherman, and he still grounds and still takes his apricot seeds to this day, as my dad said, people needed to do. It's a nutritional supplement that we don't create in our own body that's founded over 1200 different foods. And there, it's not something that's patented or, or trademark. Dad's found it in God's and nature.

Sylvie Beljanski: Hence, all the problems. So, what happened after that, for, with your dad? 

John Richardson, Jr.: What happened, that's the meat of the story. He started treating after Mildred, before he, I think around the time he is also treating Shane.

Challenges and Legal Battles

He got raided at his medical practice in the summer of 1972.

They brought in semi-automatic weapons. There was sheriffs and FDA and AMA. They confiscated his medical records. They removed his patients. They arrested him and his nurses took him to jail. And there was a young lady, a young girl, about eight or nine years old that was being treated for cancer on her leg. And she had one laetrile injection prior to that, but when they showed up, they kicked everybody else out except her 'cause her leg needed to be dressed. So dad took the time to dress her leg and, and they allowed him to. And even the FDA agent turned his face 'cause he didn't like seeing the cancer on her leg.

But dad did not give her a second treatment of laetrile because he felt here they were to arrest him for that. So he couldn't do it. And he went to jail and that young lady passed away, eight days later. And he mentioned that was a constant motivator for him, that because of this tyranny, because of this raid, this little girl never had a chance.

He didn't know if he would've saved her or not, but he knew she didn't have a chance because of what they did. The parents had come there and so it was a really, a poignant time for him. And that began, Sylvie, eight years of his practice being raided regularly. It got to where the staff knew to warn each other and they would hide the laetrile.

And here he is, a medical doctor helping people. They couldn't find a single, not one patient that would go against him. They were offering $10,000. The AMA, the local court system was offering $10,000 for anybody that would come forward that would go against my father. He was sued four times.

He, like I said, he was arrested and eventually they took away his medical license the year that he introduced his book, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that laetrile stopped the spread of cancer and actually controlled cancer in many cases in 62, to be specific. Not the best cases, not the most outstanding cases, but the cases, like I said, were documented to start to finish 'cause my dad said he had the highest rate of spontaneous healing in the history of medicine. He joked about that. That's what they would say. The FDA would say that all the people that saw him, that was just getting better 'cause of the chemo they had done or the radiation they had done prior to seeing my father.

Sylvie Beljanski: This is so similar. So similar. The raid, everything. It's so similar. So in your view why those raids, why this acrimony against natural stuff that make a difference and help people? Why they don't want to help people? 

John Richardson, Jr.: It's, that's the $24 million question. Laetrile has been demonized along with natural substances like your, Beljanski, offers and other natural treatments for disease that are

Sylvie Beljanski: Cheaper. Money, money, money, money. I think that's the answer.

John Richardson, Jr.: That is the answer, but it's, it gets even more nefarious than that because even, even when you have somebody that's given their life to treating people, they still go after 'em even if they can't find a negative situation, even if it doesn't affect their bottom line.

Your father was treating people successfully and it didn't make the medical establishment in France go away. It's not like it died out. It still was making money, but they still went after him, even though, like you said, he, they should have been building them up and having parades for your father because of what he did for the president.

The same story happened in my family with Ronald Reagan. President Ronald Reagan came down with cancer and he was deathly afraid of chemotherapy and radiation. And they cut out a part of his colon with stage four cancer and they said it was gonna spread if he didn't do chemotherapy and radiation.

But instead, he went with I think that's the answer. and metabolic therapy and Hans Nieper, Dr. Hans Nieper from West Germany, treated Ronald Reagan on a military vessel off the coast of West Germany. Treated him for 60 days in 1985, and Ronald Reagan, who was gonna, who would've died otherwise, went on to live another 19 years, serve another term as President of the United States and died of something completely different. Didn't die of cancer. 

Sylvie Beljanski: That's amazing. And that's, both presidents had turned actually successfully with, to natural compounds, and both of those natural compounds are, are demonized by the, their own establishments and, and administrations. That's amazing. Amazing. So can you tell us what, what is laetriel, exactly. 

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Mechanism of Laetrile

John Richardson, Jr.: Yes, I can. And I can tell you the function of how it works 'cause that's the next question people wanna know, if it's true, and if it, is it really scientific? And laetrile is the name that Ernst Krebs Jr. gave to it in the 1960s. I would call it like a trade name, but the natural substance found in over 1200 different foods in, in the American diet and the European diet.

It's, is the natural substance is called amygdalin. And it's found in 1200 different foods, many of 'em beans and sorghum molasses and lima beans and millet, and barley. All sorts of nuts, almonds, and walnuts and pistachios, all have amygdalin, vitamin B17 in it. And what is amygdalin?

It's called laetrile when purified. So, don't confuse it as two different things. And B17, according to the, the FDA is not, doesn't exist 'cause they don't, they've never recognized a natural vitamin since the 1950s. There's been no new vitamins approved by the FDA since the 1950s. So they say B17 doesn't exist, but Krebs called it B17 'cause it looked a lot like cyanocobalamin, which was a cyanide-containing compound known as vitamin B12 that we know,  cyanocobalamin. It had the same cyanide molecule in amygdalin. Now, it was tightly locked. The bonds were so tightly locked that the FDA in the 70s couldn't break it apart without destroying the molecule. But it has two molecules of glucose, which we all know cancer loves, and a PET scan. That's what they use in a PET scan. They feed your body radiated sugar to, to find the cancer.

Sylvie Beljanski: Exactly.

John Richardson, Jr.: Glucose. Two markers of glucose. One of benzaldehyde, which is a poison and one of cyanide, which is also poison. So that's the fear factor. They say how can this compound have these poisons in it and be good for you?

Just much like table salt, sodium chloride. If you separate out the chloride, you could poison somebody, but we sprinkle it in all of our food. It's not, it's a compound, just like amygdalin is a safe compound. It's been, it's been tested and improved. Safer than glucose. Safer than sugar. And my wife always hates when I say that 'cause she says, sugar's not safe at all, so stop saying that.

Sugar's actually dangerous for us, especially when it comes to being a cancer patient. So that molecule, the two molecules of glucose, molecule of cyanide, and one of benzaldehyde only breaks apart, Sylvie, in the presence of an enzyme known as beta glucosidase. We call it the unlocking enzyme for simpl, simplification, but if you take a cancer cell, it has a hundred times more beta glucosidase than a natural healthy cell has.

So, whatever God did to give, make that, that enzyme produced and the theory by ,with Dr. James Beard, John Beard was that it's a trophoblast, it's much like an embryo. And so that trophoblast produces this beta glucosidase and HGH, which can be tested with a pregnancy test.

I don't wanna go off on that too much. I wanna just explain this mechanism. So when beta glucosidase attaches with amygdalin and it breaks it apart, it breaks it apart into those four molecules. The cancer loves the sugar and will go to eat it, and the cyanide and benzaldehyde come together and are 10 times more deadly than they are by themselves and they kill the cancer cell. So you, 

Sylvie Beljanski: They poison the cancer cells and, and then there is not, almost nothing left for the healthy cells. Absolutely. It makes sense. 

John Richardson, Jr.: Right, but it's not only that. If that was the end of it and you had this cyanide and benzaldehyde floating around, you could think I could overdose.

I better not eat too many apricot seed, or I'll overdose. No, the healthy cells have a hundred times more rhodanese in them than it does a cancer cell. So they're exactly, the cancer cell has a lot of beta glucosidase and very little rhodanese. A healthy cell has a lot of rhodanese and very little beta glucosidase. Now, rhodanese, chemically, it works in the lab.

This is all scientifically proven, and this is not just me saying it. Rhodanese breaks the cyanide and benzaldehyde down into analgesics like thiocyanate, which are harmless and cause pain relief. So many, most all of the patients my dad saw, or most all of the patients that Dr. Harold Manner saw at Loyola University had massive amounts of pain relief.

One of the people that's ,that's alive 50 years later today that I speak to every day, I spoke to him today, he had massive pain into his whole body in 1974 when he started doing laetrile therapy, even though he had eight hours of surgery from his throat down to his ankle and they didn't remove any tumors, he got pain relief.

So it's very commonly known that with rhodanese acting on cyanide and benzaldehyde, you get pain relief and it's natural. So lots of people get off the high doses of pharmaceuticals that are pain relievers. The things that they, yeah, the things they give cancer patients, they can get off of and not have the side effects from those like morphine.

Morphine can cause your body's immune system to just shut down. And a lot of cancer patients, they just keep giving 'em more and more morphine and they, and their body can't, can't handle that. So that's the other benefit of B17. But the FDA told my father, yes we've shown that amygdalin causes pain relief, but we don't wanna approve it for cancer patients 'cause then they'll choose to do amygdalin and not do the lifesaving chemotherapy, radiation and surgery that will actually save their lives. They actually said that in documents and letters and case, cases sent to my father. So that's what has continued to this day to be the fear factor, that if they say laetrile is either ineffective, it's completely worthless, or it's poisonous, so stay away from it.

Even in your, don't eat the apple seeds. Don't eat the peach seeds. Don't eat the watermelon seeds. Those all have poisons in them and people tell me all the time, don't, doesn't apple seeds have poisons? No, it's the opposite. It has amygdalin that when you eat the apple that has rhodanese in it, you get the apple seed, which is the, the amygdalin that actually kills the cancer cell before it ever even metastasized in the first place, keeps people like Ed Griffin, who's 93 cancer free, and he's in his 90s and I'll, and he was recently asked, do you still take apricots? He said, of course I do. Why wouldn't I?

And I'll be meeting him in Tulsa this weekend at the Red Pill Expo ‘93 Cancer Free, still talking about B17 and how it keeps cancer from metastasizing the first place and also proven over time to not to keep tumors from growing and metastasizing in laboratory tests and in human tests.

Sylvie Beljanski: So now for people listening to us, where can they get laetrile? Vitamin B17s? Is it available on the webform? 

John Richardson, Jr.: Yes. It's available right now on our website at rncstore.com. And we actually, I think even have a discount code people can use. I'd have to check on what I'm, I could check that.

If we do, let's see. Maybe we do or don't, I don't know if we did that, but people can go to the website, rncstore.com. They can watch the movie Second Opinion. They can watch World Without Cancer. They can see my dad's protocol. They can read all the, a lot of documents. They can spend hours on our website just looking at information.

Things that we couldn't do even five years ago because we didn't have the backup case studies. Like last year at NIH did a study that said amygdalin causes apoptosis in cancer cells. Now, Sylvie, why don't we know that? Why is that not common knowledge? Because there's no patent on it. There's no trademark and anybody marketing it, it's just a natural substance.

You can't, you could sell it for a profit, but you can't charge $20,000 for an injection of laetrile like you can for a pharma, for a chemotherapeutic drug that you get injected. So the profit is just not there, but the facts are. And so we are raising funds. And so how do people find it?

They go to rncstore.com and we have it right there. We have the, what we call the prevention bundle, which has the pancreatic enzymes, the B15, which is another vitamin that Krebs named for, that allow that creates more oxygen in the blood, allows your organs to carry more oxygen.

And Muhammad Ali the famous boxer, American boxer actually won a boxing title using B15, pangamic acid, because it helps oxygen his blood. My son used it in his athletic career. Not necessarily anti cancers, but, but increases the amount of oxygen that your blood carries, increase the amount of oxygen that your tissues carry, and also works in conjunction with B17, which is the amygdalin.

So we have it in the prevention bundle, which is like $129 for a three-month supply, or we have it in the professional, pro bundle we call it, which is like $179 for a three-month supply. So that's how people can get it. If they want the injectable B17, they can go to the website, leave an, an email, a message, and we will get back to them and help them find a doctor who will use it as adjunctive therapy, not as a treatment for the C word, that's very important. Just like, I'm sure, with Beljanski products, which I think are fantastic. You can't tell people, oh, we're gonna cure your C word.

Sylvie Beljanski: Absolutely.

John Richardson, Jr.: Hopefully an adjunctive, help your immune system fight off. My dad always said I'm not treating cancer, I'm building up the immune system, and if as a side effect, your immune system can ward off these, this cancer, that's just, that's wonderful news.

Sylvie Beljanski: Exactly. 

John Richardson, Jr.: Yeah. 

Sylvie Beljanski: The part which is not the infusion, how does it look like? It is seeds in a bag? It's, it's liquids, it's capsules. What does it look like? 

John Richardson, Jr.: We have it, pretty much, it's, you'll, you might laugh at this, Sylvie, but we have it in seed form, we have it ground up in seed meal.

We put that seed meal in capsules for people that don't like the taste of the seeds or the seed meal 'cause it is bitter and bitter's better, but we don't like it. Lots of people realizing that bitter foods are good for you. Then we have it purified in a hundred milligram laetrile capsules, and then we have it in the IV liquid form, but we even have it in what is sugar free candy, what we call Vita Rocks for kids or teen.

Do you remember pop rocks back when years ago when you take the candy and it pop in your mouth? Do you remember that? 

Sylvie Beljanski: No, I'm sorry.

John Richardson, Jr.: Okay. In America it was a big faddish thing. We've got the rights to do that in a nutritional form, you use a non cancer causing sugar and it pops in the mouth and it goes through your, not through your digestive system and take, and so they're called Vita Rocks.

And so we even have it in that and we have protein bars with B17 in it. We're all we try to find we're actually putting spices on the apricot seeds to make it like a little snack thing. So we're trying to make it so that it's easier for people to take it in 'cause that's the biggest complaint.

Number one, that it's bitter and people don't like the taste of it. And number two, that they're afraid they're gonna poison themselves with cyanide, which we don't have, Sylvie, a single credible case where someone has poisoned themselves from eating apricot seed, and I'm sure if there was one, they would be coming after me.

They'd say it all the time. They say, in theory, you could poison yourself from eating too many apricot seeds, but we haven't seen a single case of it. And I'm, I regularly eat 40 apricot seeds in a day, and once in a while I'll get an upset stomach because when the amygdalin is breaking down a cancer cell it goes through your digestive system and can cause upset and you can have not enough rhodanese to counteract it, so that can cause you to have an upset stomach. It's interpreted as being poisoning, but it's not poisoning, and that doesn't ever happen. And that's the scare tactic they use to keep you away from laetrile or amygdalin or B17, whatever we wanna call it. 

Sylvie Beljanski: So what exactly, so what is a legal status as of today?

If you can have it, as a snack and so on? So is, the problems, legal problems are gone, finally? 

John Richardson, Jr.: Technically, if you are using any natural substance to cure cancer in the United States, you can have your practice rated. You'll be arrested. So, if you say I'm giving high dose vitamin C to treat your cancer or to cure your cancer, you can go to jail.

But if you go down the store, you can get vitamin C. So it's been, they've always tried to call a, a purified amygdalin, which we call laetrile, a drug. It's never been a drug, it's never been approved as a drug. We don't claim it's a drug. It's a natural food substance. So as long as, are all constantly telling people we're not doctors.

I'm not a doctor. I don't play one on tv. That I'm selling the substance as a boost to your immune system. A food factor like vitamin D, vitamin E, vitamin B17, vitamin C, all of those, as vitamin C prevents scurvy. But if you go out there and tell people, take my vitamin C and you're curing scurvy.

You, you can't do that. 

Sylvie Beljanski: No. They would've been, put Christopher Columbus in jail for that. 

John Richardson, Jr.: Exactly. And they, for 300 years, the elites, the powers that be, the people that control the populations of the world knew that all you had to do is suck on a lemon or a lime, and you would never die of scurvy, which was a painful, horrible death.

At 2.6 million people died of, that, simply all you do is eat an orange once a week or once every couple days, and that's all the vitamin C that prevents you from ever dying of that horrible disease. Rickets, berry, pernicious anemia are all deficiency diseases and, I believe, and the science proves it out, that cancer is also a deficiency disease.

So, if you have the proper nutrition. Whatever that is that your body's lacking, your body's immune system can keep you from dying of a metabolic deficiency disease called cancer. 

Sylvie Beljanski: Absolutely. And my father, it was also the first thing he was asking for when he was seeing a patient, it was a blood test, and he was looking if there was any imbalance.

He said, the first thing you have to do is to fix those imbalances, then we are going to take care of your immune system. But first you, you need to start from a good start where everything is balanced and equilibrium. Absolutely. 

John Richardson, Jr.: No question about it. And he was ahead of his time.

And when I go back and read my dad's materials, he was ahead of his time 'cause he did air analysis. He looked at live blood analysis and saw somebody with sickle cell anemia that he would treat twice with B17 and that sickle cell, the cells would go back to their normal shape, they would go away.

And there are studies that’d been done that, that B 17 absolutely prevents sickle cell anemia, can treat sickle cell anemia. But that was a huge thing that they went after people for. And it was, it's very simple. It's very documented, and you could do this, the studies, but to this day if you suffer from sickle cell anemia, you have a whole list of drugs you can take.

But the average lifespan of someone with sickle cell anemia is 10 years less than their counterpart. And it mostly affects black people and dark-skinned people. And so again, this is, we've known about this, why wouldn't they want us to know this? Because it's so profitable and it also controls the population.

If you're an elite that thinks we have way too many people in our world and we'd like to have less people so we can make money off of them, and they die sooner. And so it's a win-win for the medical industrial complex and I don't wanna go too far in that and say all doctors are horrible or anything like that, I don't believe that. There's a place for every doctor, and I believe there's many good doctors, but I would like to see a world where we talk about prevention and making people better without cutting out their organs or giving 'em poisons first. Try those natural things. And then if we need to do surgery or chemotherapy, radiation, let's use that as the last resort, not the emergency first resort.

And so many people are, even MDs are starting to think more like what I just said, like your father and like my father who are heroes and or, people are following that now to say, let's do natural treatments, be integrative, do it along with doing the chemo and the radiation and the surgery.

Sylvie Beljanski: You are speaking of doctors. And the first time I heard about your dad and his story, it was who, a doctor, Dr. Michael Schachter, who was one of the pioneers of integrative medicine. He had his practice in New Jersey for many years. And he was using laetrile and also my father's products together.

And he was telling me that cancer can come from many things and you don't know exactly what is going to get rid of this beast, but so you want to score everything you can that can help to fight it. And, and the it trusted your products. He trusted my father's products and he was he was using everything he could and he had very good results.

John Richardson, Jr.: Yeah, I'm hearing of people that's just like that right now that are having, absolute stunning results because they're combining things. I don't want you to think or anybody listening to this, I think, just eat a couple apricot seeds and you can, eat a McDonald's and not, you can have a horrible diet and drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes. That's not what I'm saying. 

Your products with Beljanski combined with B17 and also organic foods and ozone therapy and iodine therapy and all these wonderful things that our body needs, all provided by God, all cheap, all very reasonably priced, compared to modern medicine.

And so it's a com, combination of those things. And my dad always strove, and I'm sure your father was the same, he always strove to be perfect. If he had a patient, he wanted to save them. But he would admit that some cases he would give him laetrile and they wouldn't respond at all. So he'd have to find out what else is going wrong with them.

Oh, pancreas isn't producing enough enzymes. Oh, we gotta adjust there. Let's do a hair analysis. Maybe their vitamin D is way off kilter or, they're very low on zinc or other things. So he would have to, in order for him to make his product work, the one he believed in laetrile. Everything had to be in balance for it all to work better.

So I'm an inclusive person. Soursop tea, black seed oil, the Beljanski products. I can't pronounce the names, so I need to be able to pronounce the names. But all of these, in combination, show the most promise for the, for us to have actually a world without cancer, actually to see it in our lifetime.

And I wake up every morning with the mission of getting this word out there through books and movies and all sorts of different avenues that we're trying to do to tell the world about this so that our kids, and our grandkids will only know about cancer in books they read, just like with scurvy.

Sylvie Beljanski: That's a wonderful message and thank you for sharing that. I am sure that you are giving everybody listening to us a lot of hope and, and good feeling, empowerment about what they can do and not be victim of, of the disease and also being preyed upon by an establishment. Yes

John Richardson, Jr.: Absolutely. And that's a good message of hope for people to understand. It's not just a simple decision to change. It's that you have to have the faith that you're going to rescue yourself from a debilitating disease and then follow a path that those have, before have done.

There's lots of great human beings out there. What The Beljanski Foundation and The Beljanski conference and the Beljanski products are, give me hope. I didn't, I didn't really know that name a year ago. Maybe you didn't know my name a year ago, or you, maybe you heard about Dr. Richardson through the doctor that you talked about.

Sylvie Beljanski: Yeah.

John Richardson, Jr.: But it's really about us bringing these all to the forefront without being censored, getting this information out and then letting people see the results and then choosing their path they wanna take for their own health. We have to be our biggest, our biggest advocates now in, in this world we live in. We have to understand our bodies and have to make our choices, not just listen to somebody that's been trained with strictly one way of doing things and no, no ability to look at other options as part of people's healing journey.

Sylvie Beljanski: So where people, you have mentioned the website and, but where people also can hear about you, follow you, you, you have a podcast. Tell us more. 

John Richardson, Jr.: Yes. Yeah. I have so much. Sometimes it's, it's daunting. But I do have a podcast called Hidden Healings Uncensored. It's being launched on a lot of platforms, but it's primarily on the Braveheart.

A platform which has a lot of truth tellers. It's not censored. We're also on rumble. You can go to our website and under, under I forget the name of the title, but it's pretty, Resources. It's called Resources. You can see all the podcasts. This podcast will be put back on our website so people can find a lot of free information about that.

But the main call to action today, besides going and getting the product, which I think everybody needs to be taking B17, the enzymes, and B15, along with the Beljanski products, is go to owwc.org. That's Operation World Without Cancer dot org, where we link to The Beljanski Foundation, where we link to Healing Strong, where we link to Ardis Labs, Bryan Ardis, who I was just on a phone call with about his message about nicotine in the battle against COVID-19. We linked to all these truth tellers through Operation World Without Cancer, and we're actively seeking funding, people to help donate for the movie we're gonna make about this Operation World Without Cancer that we're gonna, we're gonna show to RFK Jr. and Donald Trump. The filmmaker's name is Frank Torchia and he made the movie Cut Burn Poison about Dr. Brezinski out of Houston, who you know, how he was curing the C word and they went after him and they tried to sue him, so he's gone underground, but he is still practicing to this day and still healing people.

And that's what Operation World Without Cancer is about. So if people wanna find me, go to owwc.org and sign up for the email list and we'll keep you posted on the up and coming things. Donate to our cause by clicking the Donate button. It's a 501(c)(3), so it's a hundred percent deductible.

And there's so many benefits that we're gonna be giving to people for donating and helping the cause. So that's the main thing that we're looking to do, is to spread the word by do, by publishing a book. A lot of the things that Beljanski is already doing, we're trying to do as well about the subject of laetrile.

But we're looking to change the world and we want to do it together with the Beljanski family and the Beljanski, the whole plethora of things that you're bringing to the world. 

Sylvie Beljanski: I love this idea. I love the idea that you're creating a community. I do strongly believe that it's, together we get stronger and we, and together we can make a difference.

Absolutely. In the world of integrative medicine, one of the reasons why the establishment is so, can, has been able to go so strongly against each of us is because everybody is a little bit separate doing its own thing on its old way. But if for the first time we, we get together as a strong community, I think we can move mountains.

John Richardson, Jr.: That's exactly what it is. That's why we did it. And we're not afraid. We're not, it's not like my party. I'm keeping it separate. I'm introducing people from all walks of life. I can't wait to introduce you to people. Great care, gold care, Beljanski, Operation World Without cancer, all of us to work together, Healing Strong. We all have the same message of hope and healing and that natural God's natural medicine should be first in line. And so I want us all to, to join forces together and exactly what you said, it's harder to pick us off if we're not on an island by ourselves, if we're together and watch each other's back and recommending things, I get recommended things I wanna make sure you hear about and so on, so that we're protected and we're doing the right things while we're out in the marketplace trying to change the world.

Sylvie Beljanski: We will make it happen. Thank you. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure.

John Richardson, Jr.: Thank you. God bless you!